This afternoon Glenn Ordway was touting a “major announcement” to be made at 5:20. Most of these “major announcements” are little more than announcing a new weekly guest to the program, or something along those lines.

Today’s announcement however, is legitimately big news. After years of having the format of Glenn Ordway and two rotating co-hosts, Ordway announced that starting February 28th, the Big Show will add Michael Holley as a permanent co-host alongside Ordway. The name of the show will remain the same, and there will still be a whiner line. It is unclear whether there will be a third rotating co-host each day, as Ordway simply said that others “will be in and out of here all the time.”

The question was left then – what will become of the Dale and Holley show? This was not announced on the show, but The Inside Track at the Boston Herald reports that the duo will be replaced by former Red Sox infielder Lou Merloni and weekend WEEI (and WGAM AM)  host Mike Mutnansky.

The track reports that Dale Arnold will be relegated to “fill in duty.”

These moves are clearly in reaction to the ratings gains made by 98.5 The SportsHub in the last year. The odd thing is, the Dale and Holley show was the only one that was still consistently beating their 98.5 competition.

WEEI was hamstrung however, by the salaries of their talent. They couldn’t make a move in the morning, with John Dennis and Gerry Callahan making big bucks, and Ordway is a fixture in the afternoons. I believe Holley’s contract was due sometime this year, so this move seems to be a promotion of sorts for him.

These are some big moves. I can’t wait to read all of your reactions to them.

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    1. hey – he was given the choice by NESN to go full time and chose his cushy 10-2 gig. As Jack Edwards would say "bwaaaah ha ha"

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  1. The only show on WEEI that I can stand to listen to is Dale & Holley. Can’t imagine the Big Show will be tolerable, even with Michael. And while I loved watching Lou play, I find him shallow and uninteresting as a broadcaster.

    So I guess no more WEEI (or Boston sports radio, for that matter) for me. Somehow I imagine I’ll survive 😉

    I only listen online from Florida, FWIW.

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  2. I can't see how Arnold can stay there with dignity, and I wouldn't blame him. I would find it maddening to think that my show is the one in the daypart that beats the competition, yet I go. Radio is cruel.

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    1. Yeah, but if Arnold stays, and remains in the same time slot, AND his ratings still beat the competition, then Arnold will be in a HUGE bargaining position himself. The splitting of Arnold and Holley may not be so much a promotion for Holley as it is a test to see if he's the drawing card or Arnold is.

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  3. People still listen to the big show? As if it wasn't repulsive enough already, adding Holley with regular guests like pompous ass DeOssie will be intolerable.

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  4. How could he not be pissed? He's been demoted from midday host to fill in and likely weekend duty. When does his contract expire? I doubt he will leave, though. This is his last big paycheck. If you look at his career, it's in a severe downward trajectory. Stripped of play by play duties, now his show has been taken away.

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    1. He wasn't stripped of ANYTHING regarding play by play. He was offered the full time broadcasting duties, but Dale did not like being away from his family for the Bruins away games. He aksi had just signed a 5 year deal with EEI and he did not feel it was right to do that to his employer.

      He was NESN's first choice, not Jack Edwards. Edwards knew that and was offered the position only after Arnold refused it.

      Get your facts straight.

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  5. Atleast the summer will be better now that we won't have Mikey guest host the Big Show when Ordway takes vacation every other week with Holley. I am glad WEEI is finally getting some competition and want them to be humbled, but I can NOT listen to Felger who is the ultimate douche who loves sticking it to the local sports team, and Mazz has become Felger's lackey "your right Mike". With Holley in the afternoon I can listen to the Big Show again as Ordway's comfort zone is gone no more Fred and Steve, no more dumb baseball crap from Buckley and Merloni. I feel bad for Dale as Merloni and Mutnansky ooze awful pairing. Merloni criticizes every caller that disagrees with him and Mutnansky is just an empty suit while Dale was a company man as well he was a good host. Hope WEEI wins the afternoon and SportsHub wins the midday and evening.

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  6. Maybe WEEI could find a male host who sounds like a man. Running girly-voiced men like Arnold, Mutnansky and the squeaky-voiced flash boys must be doing wonders for their ratings.

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  7. Big winners are Gresh and Zolak as I and many won't listen to the crap of Merloni and Mutnansky. Unless Dale's contract is not guaranteed it is dumb to not just slid Merloni into Holley's slot and when Dale's contract was up don't renew, but to cut the guy when he is beating the competition is STUPID. I usually listened to SportsHub in the morning as T&R are better than crusty old guys. Dale and Holley in the midday because they were a great pairing, and nobody in the afternoon unless Ordway had good guest hosts I tried Felger and Mazz and turned it off immediately as Felger is such an unlikable elitist prick and Mazz became his puppet. I hope the SportsHub considers putting Pete Shepard and Dale Arnold together as pairing either in the morning or midday.

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  8. Seriously, why the hell didn't they make Pete and Dale a show? The nice guy and the moron. It worked in the odd couple. I can't listen to Gresh and Zo. I listened to them when I worked and RI and it was painful. They just love topics that I have zero interest in and they are both kinda boring. Dale and Holley was the only show I listened to on EEI. I hate Ordway and can't listen to Felger and Mazz because Mazz just has zero talent. He likes to be an instagator but he stakes out the most retarded points and then loves to bust out the straw man. Actually the best pairing would be Pete and Felger. That would truly be great radio. Plus then you could bring back the real post game show only put people on it who don't drag their knuckles when they walk.

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    1. Pete and Felger?

      I think you're onto something there Jamie.

      Opposites attract….listeners and callers.

      That would be some entertaining radio right there.

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  9. WEEI management is officially running the station down the toilet. First they let Neumie go over a salary squabble. Yes, he did not appeal to the younger demographic, but who listens midday? Retirees, traveling workers and, ummmm…..who? Then they dumped Pete's passion to save $, and kept the arrogant Pink Pachyderm with Marbles Mouth (who obviously work for low pay while collecting their pension) doing football and berating anyone who dare question the Hooded One. Unlistenable.

    Tell me there's no significant cost savings by replacing Dale with Merloni and Mutnansky. Granted they will be better than the Fat URI Bench Warmer and the Backup QB who got lucky to be a starter on a crap team, but middays will now be spent listening to the iPod.

    If EEI keeps McAdam for baseball I will listen those days. Otherwise, Felger and Mazz will kill the Midget and the Buckeye.

    Say Goodnight Julie.

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  10. Saving money….younger guys that will work for less. Mutnansky is okay, but anybody with that moron Merloni is going to be p!ssing up a rope. Dale Arnold is probably a good citizen, which means he was an exception in radio and would meet and unkind fate eventually. He probably lasted far longer than he should have with his okely dokely schtick.

    Ordway and Holley is an all-time mismatch and won't last. Looks like EEI is dying a slow death and I for one couldn't be happier. As long as they still employ the two jackholes in the morning and the wacky d-bag at night, they are moving in the wrong direction.

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    1. The only thing worse than Ordway is when he has Borges on. It is like listening to Yoko Ono's greatest hits.

      Putting things in perspective, I actually enjoy listening to CHB on 98.5 at times, even with all his leanings… and especially compared to listening to the screech and screamfest the competition has on at the same time.

      As far as Borges goes, however, I actually found him much easier to listen to when Merloni was across from him since the voices were kept at a saner level along with people better able to finish their points without 37.3 interruptions per minute.

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  11. I wonder if Dale's "rant" on Felger, etc. a couple weeks back was done in response to management pressure to be "edgier." When he sounded like a bad Kenneth the Page impression, they realized it was time to kick him to the curb.

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    1. I thought Dale's rant was planned to distract anyone from noticing that Ordway's engineer/producer was fired,him being one of the only minorities employed by WEEI . If WEEI wants to get younger, axing Ordway would be a great start–if they don't want to eat his contract, move Ordway to 10-2 and D&H to 2-6.

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  12. time for me to buy an ipod. I cant listen to anything that weei is going to put out, Dale and Holley were the only show that I could tolerate. Looks like its T & R in the morning and then ipod time.

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  13. This explains a bit of the last few months where the number of of "guest hosts" seemed to skyrocket across the entire programming spectrum.

    Personally, I would love to see a more regular role for David Givens. While Troy Brown is knowledgeable and personable, I really warmed up to Givens' voice and style when he was on. Hopefully we'll see a lot more of him in the future.

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    1. I wonder if either Brown or Givens were interested in commiting to a show five days a week. Either one could have been paired with Dale and would make for a more interesting show.

      I haven't been listening to EEI much in recent months, but when I do I've noticed all the subtle changes they've made in response to the SportsHub's presence. The way their show segments now go into breaks with 'teases', the use of more drop-ins…basically, if you've listened regularly to 98.5 and the way their shows are produced you can tell EEI is trying to duplicate it right down to the scheduling of their commercial breaks.

      Guess all those EEI interns being told to take notes listening to 98.5 is really paying off!

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  14. I don't get this move at all. Mut is awful. While D/H aren't groundbreaking , as Bruce said, they are the only show beating THS. Trying to imagine Holly with The Big O and I just don't see it. Bizarre move. I won't be listening so I guess it doesnt matter. I will be using my ipod and my Sirius/XM radio more

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  15. It's apparent that EEI is trying to 'youthanize' the Big Show with the addition of Holley (I also believe his contract expires March 1st and this might have been the only way EEI could get him to stay). I'll be curious to hear what kind of on-air chemistry O & H will have – at least they probably won't constanly talk over one other. If nothing else, the two should be an interesting contrast to Felger and the Strawman.

    The real shocking news to me is the Mutnansky-Merloni midday pairing, if that is to come to fruition. Like 'guest' said, the sensible move would be to replace Holley with Merloni opposite Dale. It would also allow Lou to more easily transition into being a radio host five days a week, working with a veteran talk host who could bring out the best in him. If this is to be the end of the line for Dale, it leaves Ordway as the last remaining host who was on the air when EEI debuted its sportsradio format twenty years ago this September (the late Andy Moes 6-9, Dale 9-1, Glenn & Janet Prensky 1-4, Eddie Andelman 4-7 and Craig Mustard 7-midnight).

    Pete Sheppard has to be weeping somewhere in the North End right about now.

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  16. Holley is safe for the Big Show, I was hoping for more high profile name like Bob Ryan. The mid day was strictly a salary dump. You can so what you about Dale but he was a pro. The mid show is now feels like a weekend fill in.

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  17. wow, weei just 100% surrendered the mid day slot and threw their best talent on the scrap heap. Dale and Holley were high in the ratings because they were the classiest show on EEI. Dale was not only knowledgable but respectful. I also truly liked his football show on Sundays.
    EEI just took Holley from being an equal and made him a sidekick by putting him on Glen's show — everyone know's it's Glen's show.
    Bottom line is wow — The SportsHub must be really kicking their ass. What a shame that EEI didn't rectify the situation the right way — by changing up the morning show.

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  18. I bet they are happy they let an old codger like John Dennis denegrate Ryen Rusillo back in the day and prevented WEEI from hiring him before ESPN did, or 98.5 even existed. The blind arrogance of Wolfe and Killer Kahn is now biting them in the rump. Even a guy like Noomie landed in a better place (NBC) after they dumped him.

    They made a huge miscalculation in underestimating their competition and slept on their laurels for 20 years…Oh well, nothing last forever.

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  19. I don't like the move. I understand the EEI was stuck, improve their overall product while blancing large contracts with a key advertising demo to the SportsHub(SH). Holley is the only reason I tune into EEI and the pairing of he and Ordway is not one that intrigues me. Ordway's best skill is also the current fault of the Big Show he is adept at directing the chaos. In a two man booth there is no chaos which is good but poor for the fence sitting Ordway who will be asked to square off with a co host.

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  20. Before the SH came in I thought Felger was the ideal match for Holley, but after listening to him the past few years I think they would neutralize each other. Merloni would be an improvement but Im not sure its the splash, but it would be better than the SH midday lineup. Holley's best partner over the year's has been Michael Smith, when they talk sports not Globe memories and would be one I'd be interested in. It would also be one that would have the potential to grow together and eventually take over the drive time. Im not sure of the cost but the best option in my mind would be a Nuemi & Ryan show. I found myself switching from T&R to them some mornings. Sheppard and Merloni would also be an upgrade.

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  21. Dale and Holley was the last show on WEEI I would listen to. I think Holley is being held back on that station. Given the chance I think he would be great with a little more freedom to do a show how he wants. You could just hear the tension between him and Dale at times. I loved Dale doing hockey games but I think he has turned into Eddie Andelman without the sense of humor. At any rate Holley paired with Ordway isn’t going to work either. Give Holley his own show or cut him loose.

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  22. I think this is going to work. Holley is an amazing talent and it took stones for Ordway, at this point in his career, to take on a smarter, younger, more charismatic partner.

    As for Dale, he has made far more money than his talent merits so he should just leave gracefully and do MC gigs. We will miss him as much as we miss Butch Sterns.

    And if this ends Buckley’s days on prime time it is a great move indeed.

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  23. Seems to me that sliding Holley in the drive time slot is just another way to have a good co-host who can take over for Ordway's long vacations.
    The Dale and Holley show is the best show on 'EEI now. I'll miss those two guys not working together. Dale Arnold deserves much better than the way it seems to be working out for him. Merloni or Mutnansky need an established co-host to work with, that pairing of "Mut" with Merloni won't work. Better Dale with Merloni, now that's something I could enjoy mid-day!!!

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  24. Wow, huge news.

    Dale became the EEI archetype (condescending, automatically disagreeing with callers) a number of years ago. In many ways he's symbolic of why EEI, as currently constructed, is doomed. Caller-is-wrong/backslapping radio is dead.

    The only way for EEI to appeal to the younger demo – which this move reeks of – is to actually become younger as a lineup and as an organization. Maybe this was a first step in that direction. But until they turn over the vast majority of their on-air personalities by injecting some talented youth, they're going to just seem like old guys trying to be young and cool in a world where authenticity is key.

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    1. Have to agree 100%. Dale "used to be" one of the few hosts that would actually show some respect for the callers, but if you were to listen to a few shows since the inception, you'll see he has become more ot the "your an idiot if you dont agree with me" every year.

      Holly as also spiraled down as far as I'm concerned.

      Hopefully EEI's apperent demize will put an end to that type of show.

      I used to listen to eii about 95%of the time, but what's the point of a show where you're only allowed to talk if you agree with the host?

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      1. I think Holley was just bored with Dale. He saw that Dale was contrived and predictable and was just done with that act. I really think Holley is good, especially with the right co-host. As some mentioned, he is much better when he's paired with someone who is also legitimately good and informed.

        Some day a smart programmer will team Holley with ESPN's Michael Smith (formerly of the Globe) and they'll be a dynamic duo because they are relatively young, they're actually friends with chemistry that is hard to manufacture, and they can have civil disagreements that produce enlightening conversations.

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  25. Don't understand the move at all. As mentioned they killed the one show routinely winning. I enjoy Holley tremendously, but fear he'll be lost trying to bounce off Ordway. Holley sounded awkward during the big announcement, have to think he's seriously considering his non-weei options right now. That ship is sinking, best to move off before it's too late.

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  26. I think this is a good (and ballsy) move by WEEI. I always felt that Holley's talent was hampered by Dale being such a curmudgeon – whatever chemistry there was between them seems to have disappeared over the past year or two. Whenever there's a decent fill-in for Dale, Holley has much more energy and is far more entertaining. Holley will make a good foil to Ordway and won't allow himself to be bullied like most of the current Big Show co-hosts. He's usually pretty informed in his opinions and can intelligently express them without having to yell over somebody. It'll definitely be interesting to hear how it works in the first couple weeks.

    The Merloni/Mutnansky pairing is a head-scratcher. I enjoy Merloni on the Big Show and his ability to talk sports outside baseball is pretty impressive. However I'm not sure he has quite the gravitas to anchor his own show, especially with a guy like Mutnansky. When he's done fill-in host duty on Sports Tonight, he doesn't look very comfortable. Mutnansky belongs on Butchie Stearn's "Pulse Network" or the Fox Sports Radio graveyard shift. His personality comes off as completely contrived and his sports knowledge is questionable at best. I would have gave John Ryder a shot, that guy busts his hump and never seems to catch a break.

    As for Dale, he must of seen this coming as he's been more ornery than ever the past few weeks (and conveniently wasn't in today). His career has really gone down the tubes the past few years, having lost play-calling duties for both the B's and the Sox and now his own show. Maybe 98.5 will pick him up after his contract is up to bolster their Bruins coverage?

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    1. Good post. I think it is a good move.I feel bad for Dale, he is a pro, but he is a little too stiff and I too noticed that Holly had more energy with fill in guests. I also think the Big O and Holly will be a good match.I think Ordway is the most knowledgeable sports radio host with a great knowledge of the ins and outs of all major sports, and he is the most well versed in the business of sports.I often have to turn off Dennis and Callahan due to Callahan's political rantings, but have noticed lately that he has seemed to tone down the policitcal lunacy, most likely due to the competiton across the dial. T&R can be funny at times, but I feel like they are morning radio guys first and sports guys second (which is true). Too much Morning Zoo and not enough sports gravitas. Gresh and Zo are okay. I actually like Gresh, but Zo is a one topic pony – football. I don't care what he has to say about other sports. Felger is full of himself and over the top, and Mas is like the pain in the ass, nudgy cousin, like Oliver from the Brady Bunch. Finally, I actually like Merloni and Mutt. I think they will bring more to the table than Gresh and Zo, and I thought the Dale and Holly pairing was getting tired.

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    2. I kind of disagree with your first point. In fact, I always thought that Holley was a much better second chair than first. I understand your comment about "more energy", but I didn't perceive it as energy. I took it as Michael trying too hard to steer. In fact that "energy" often led to things most people can't stand about Ordway's show – talking over the co-host. To me he came across as yucking it up a bit much.

      On air I thought he an Dale were a perfect pairing. I loved how would intelligently and frequently disagree with Dale, and Dale would frequently back down from a position. Confident yet proper perspective of being co-hosts. When Michael has a guest host, he comes across as it being his show, with a guest host.

      But agree to disagree…

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  27. Why doesn't 'eei take the espn national feed from 10-2? Mut/Lou…r u f- ing kidding me. Panic move cause of the perceived younger demo they're looking for. Dale is well spoken, knowledgable and not a screamer like Ordway or a bleeping Neanderthal like Callahan. Can you imagine…maybe people want some dignity on the radio. Bad move, Jasom. You're being reactive…not proactive…. Mike Mut…gimme a break…

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  28. This sucks, i hate Zolak and Gresh, just boring and sucky. The only show I truly enjoyed has now been blown up by WEEI, and the best on air guy has been saddled with Ordway and his morons. Am I really going to forced to listen to my local south Florida sports stations? How is D and C doing in the ratings? How have they lasted this long? How about Mustard and Johnson in the midday slot?

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    1. Men 25-54 WEEI beats them barely in the rating but TSH has 20% more total listeners over the course of the a week. M 35-54 D&C take it. But 45-64, TSH is tied in rating and more listeners overall for the week.

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  29. I propose…the Malcontent Weakend….(emphasis on Weak)
    6-9 The late Andy Mose and Craig Mustard
    9-12 Larry Johnson…Tracing, Photoshopping, and Adventures with Silly Puddy
    12-5 Eddie Andelman's Nap Time
    5-10 Liquor in the Front, and Poker in the Rear with Pete Sheppard
    Overnight….Dakota, Danny from Quincy, and Anthony Pepe feeding coins into a ham radio for payable minutes of airtime

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    1. Nice!! Don't forget to fit in the Ted Sarandis School of reputation protecting! (Rule#1: After caller says his opening disagreeing sentence, YELL over him for the duration of his allowed time, say "Nice to talk to ya, my man", then drop the call. This prevents anyone from proving you wrong!

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  30. I wonder if this is why Dale was so angry about the Larry Ridley comments a few weeks ago. Perhaps he saw the writing on the wall.

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  31. A while ago I asked the following, " Do you think management at WEEI are banging their heads against their desks asking over and over 'Why did we sign Ordway?!' " Bruce your headline is perfect. There is not a better term to use than desperate. WEEI's decision is also very dumb. It shows you just how incapable EEI management is now that they have competition. What this move has done has guaranteed that Gresh and Zoe will win 10-2 and you will not see any change at 2-6. The reason is that the problem with The Big Show is Ordway. I think I can sum up what a majority of the people here think, Ordway is bad at his job. If he is not screaming over guests, he is condescending to callers. Find out how many intelligent callers are on that show. There are very few and they are rushed off. A commenter on Barstool Sports said it perfectly. He/she said Ordway thinks he is the " President of Sports ".

    I actually like Lou Merloni. I think Dale would have been much better at leading the conversation though than Mutnansky. Mutnansky was doing a good job at WGAM and at WEEI on the weekends until he caught the virus that was transmitted by D&C and Ordway called blowharditis. The illness seemed to really take form when, for whatever reason, Mutnansky said at WGAM, David Ortiz was classless for not wanting to talk to the media after a particularly bad game. So Ortiz was great when he spoke the game before but classless because he wanted a break for one game. Sorry Mike, you lost me there.

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  32. I think the addition of Holley to the Big Show could be a refreshing change. Michael is one of my favorites on local radio – well informed, great contacts with local teams, and solid on the air. I personally listen to T&R in the mornings and have always preferred Dale and Holley during afternoons while working. Then I’ll jump back and forth between the Big Show and Felger + Mazz, often changing when Felger becomes overly contrarian (which is often) or when Mazz starts to speak. Two other candidates that I would've liked to see get a chance for the 'EEI mid-day spot would be Jon Ryder and Joe Haggerty, both of whom I think are great on air and very knowledgeable – the future of sports radio in our town.

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  33. What I am still amazed with is that Julie Kahn, Jason Wolfe and other high ranking Entercom management still have their jobs. They were the ones who gave the large contracts to Ordway and D&C. They also did a terrible job at reconnaissance within the radio landscape. It seems like they were caught completely off-guard by the arrival of 98.5 a year and a half ago. My guess is that Entercom may have reconsidered signing Ordway to his deal if they knew there was going to be competition. What has to be particularly embarrassing to Entercom is that Ordway is getting smoked by two incompetent hosts at 98.5 in Felger and Mazz. Ordway is actually worse than them.

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    1. And although RKO is not a sports station, don't forget that the precipitous fall of that frequency from its lofty past since J&J were put in charge (losing Rush, the Howie Carr contract debacle, and don't forget the ex-speaker in the morning who best speaking is not found on the radio).

      Even had Entercom foresaw the emergence of the SportsHub and opted not to lock up Ordway long-term, you wonder how they would have responded. Would they have signed Felger instead?

      While most of the commenters here can find flaws with all of the afternoon sports radio hosts, the combined ratings for their shows have never been higher, so they appeal to the majority even if our vocal minority finds them grating.

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    2. Entercom didn't think anyone could compete with them after the failures of ESPN radio and 1510. But 98.5 has a better signal, plus the shows at eei are god awful!

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  34. Judos to Felger and Mazz for killing the Big Show format. Given an alternative, we went and after a year and a half, management relented. Yes I will give the new Big Show a chance now that it wont feature Fred n Steve telling me what I think about football or worse yet explaining it to me b/c clearly im not paying enuf attention. Now lets just clean up the 3rd chair to guys who cover sports w/o being personalites on their own and cut down on the celebrity in their own mind callers and maybe ill stick around.

    As to Dayell – he's smart enuf to do what it takes to keep his fat paycheck and I dont begrudge him that. He had a nice run as a host and it is interesting that essentially Orway's failure is costing him his show.

    Finally – good call on the comment that somewhere Pete is giggling that the circle down the drain happened after he was canned – yet crying b/c he would have died to be midday host yet it goes to two nondescript D/A wannabes. And on that note – if we could somehow turn this tide against Adams and relegate 70s baseball and fart joke radio to overnights….hey a guy can dream

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  35. I don't really think Merloni can hold down a show on his own, and Mutnansky's just not there yet. So this kind of baffles me, if it does actually happen.

    And… OK, the thing is, Dale and Holley are kind of stodgy, together, but they have good thoughts and good information. I have no confidence that Mutt & Merloni will do anything at all similar to that. And Zo and Gresh have so far failed to thrill me either. Bleh. Wrong move, 'EEI.

    As for Ordway — I'm tired of him. But I can /hope/ this will provide some kind of change. 'Cause I'm sure not going with Felger.

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  36. The radio lineups are pretty bad from top to bottom, does it really matter what slot they’re in? Dennis (pompous and ignorant) and Callahan (humorless and ignorant) don’t ever talk about sports never mind the nonsense that comes from their useless lap dog (Meterparel). Toucher and Rich (sophomoric and pointless) barely talk about sports. Gresch (completely unlistenable) and Zo (completely uninteresting) make you beg for commercials or NPR. Dale (terrible whiney voice, virtually no opinion) and Holley (listenable but condescending) are not very exciting but somewhat tolerable as background chatter while in traffic. Felger (self-proclaimed douche, usually found beating a dead horse) and Mazz (shrill, dweeb) are fortunate that the Big Show is the only other sports radio option in their slot. Ordway (self-important, rude, loud, obnoxious) and his cast of equally self important, unfunny, ex-jocks actually match up well to their lowest common denominator call-in and whiner line audience. Mikey Adams (completely boring) makes you hope for a Celtics or Red Sox game. DA (Mr. Monologue) puts the talk in talk radio, shut up already.

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    1. great post on all accounts except, I like Felger. People misunderstand him. He is there to get under people's skin and does a good job of it! Appreciate the fact that he single handily brought down the fat, overpaid blowhard.

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      1. The only aspect of Felger I admire is that he will say whatever he wants and could care less what anyone thinks of him. Probably has the thickest skin of any sports media member 'round these parts.

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  37. It's amazing that so many of these commenters "don't ever listen to WEEI" or "never pay attention to 98.5" yet have such strong opinions.

    Dale's a good soldier but he's irrelevant. Holley is the #1 talent on WEEI and they're hitching their wagon to him in hopes that he rights the ship.

    WEEI has sat on their asses for years now because of no competition (and can you blame them?). But they're obviously smartening up – when's the last time you've heard Steve Burton or Bill Burt on the airwaves? They've been replaced by the likes of Troy Brown. Huge upgrade. It used to be the Good Ol' Boys Network on The Big Show, but so many of the rotating co-hosts were piss poor that eventually it caught up with them.

    Ordway has minimal sports knowledge but he's a maestro at creating arguments and controversy. I have no idea how that'll mesh with Holley, who's more enthusiastic, genuine, and well-rounded. But WEEI is taking this seriously and putting their top talent in the top slot.

    I'm not sure how to feel about Mut and Merloni. Lou has been groomed for this slot since he started doing radio, and while I think he still has some of the "I'm a jock and you're a nerd" syndrome, he's gotten better. Mut's a solid straight man. It may take a while but I think they'll be respectable.

    This also proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Michael Felger reigns supreme in Boston (and I think Bruce did an article about that within the last few months). Love him or hate him, he's getting it done on multiple platforms.

    A Felger-Holley combo would be damn near unstoppable.

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  38. Thankfully (and quite suprisingly) Gary Tanguay wasn't given the midday slot. WEEI is going downhill fast. In fact, the state of sports radio in this town has never been worse. Instead of bringing in someone fresh and new, they shuffle around Holly and bring in Merloni as a permanent host. He gets far too much work around here and is frankly not that good. Mut really has no talent. Wow… WEEI is in a free fall.

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  39. This is a mixed bag of an announcement — I think it strengthens the Big Show, no doubt about that, though it'll be interesting to hear the chemistry between Ordway and Holley.

    What makes zero sense to me is Mutnansky and Merloni. It's almost — not quite, but almost — like moving Mustard and Johnson to middays. I don't get it. I hear Mutnansky for a few minutes on the weekends and I turn him off quickly because there's nothing there. He's a contrived, cliched broadcast-journalism grad type who's OD'd on too much talk radio — he's "smooth" but it's all surface, with no sense of an informed opinion or perspective that, to me, is worth listening to. Merloni I find to be not particularly interesting either. He makes sure he talks a lot but, ultimately, says little. Still, if he was paired with the right person (Dale? Pete?) I'd be willing to give him a shot. But not with Mutnansky. I'll even take Gresh & Zo — or something else — now between 10-2.

    So I'm up for Holley on the Big Show — and in fact I think there's less reason to listen in now to Felger & Mazz's 'Contrarian Show' — but the 10-2 shift perplexes me.

    I think in the end it shows how EEI has misjudged things in recent years. They cut Pete, they cut Dale — and they end up promoting a guy like Mutnansky to a day job? Bizarre, unless Dale was making so much money (?) it was a cust-cutting maneuver.

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  40. Look at these names: John Ryder, Lou Merloni, Mike Mutnansky, Dale Arnold. All of them are simply boring. They add no personality or expertise to the sports talk discussion. Glenn Ordway is a dinosaur and I have no desire to listen to Republican talk radio at 6am.

    Sports Hub is killing them because they're fresh. T&R are younger and more original. Felger & Mazz are insufferable, BUT they are stoking the fires and getting people talking (I mean, pissing on Ray Allen's 3pt record? wow…contrarian to the letter). I don't really listen to either station because the constant problem at both stations is….the dumb callers.

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  41. Ye Gods.

    I don't know which is worse. The loss of one of most solid and level-headed radio personalities on the air in Dale Arnold, or the collection of comments I've been reading here.

    When I turn on the radio looking for sports talk, no matter WHAT daypart it is, I'm looking for commentary, in-depth analysis, and discussion about SPORTS. No fart jokes. No current-events conservative or liberal-bashing. No discussion of non-sports celebrities' latest screw-ups.

    D&C are fine when they actually discuss sports, which is about 10% of the time.

    Toucher and Rich have a yuk-it-up morning zoo-type approach, which does me no favors.

    Gresh and Zoe can be somewhat listenable, if grating.

    The less said about Felger and Mazz the better.

    The Big Show was fine as it was — the whole schtick there was hugely entertaining, and turned hundreds of afternoon commutes from a pain in the butt to something I looked forward to, including the 'character' callers and the Whiner Line.

    Ted Serandis was quite good in the evenings, except when sometimes get too earnest and wander into self-parody.

    The less said about Mikey Addams* the better.

    The DA show has significant promise to be replacement for Ted Nation, but he needs to lose some of the sound-bite schtick.

    Dale and Holley was the ONE show that gave me most of what I was looking for. I knew that I could turn to them for really good analysis after a weekend when one or more of the Boston sports teams had laid an egg.

    I'll give Mutt and Merloni a chance to see if they can do it.

    Echoing others on here, The Sports Hub ought to pick up Dale and put him on Bruins coverage. The current announcers do not compare well against the great Bob Wilson.

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    1. (To finish my thought)

      *Deliberately mis-spelled — sometimes Mike Adams comes across more like someone from the Addams Family. Uncle Fester, perhaps?

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    1. If nuclear war ever happens and wipes out humanity there will be 2 things left on the earth: cockroaches and Meter doing the morning sports flash on WEEI.

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  42. Dream team? Both eei and the sportshub are lousy radio and I can't believe anybody would be so starved for sports related entertainment that they would have to listen to either of these stations.

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