Celtics (13-4) vs. Pacers (9-12)
Friday, November 23
Just a month after the Celtics dropped their first game of the season in Indiana to the Pacers, Boston looked for a little retribution on their home floor. The Pacers were struggling coming into the Garden, having lost three of the last four. The Celtics smelled blood against Slick Leonard’s bunch and allowed Red Auerbach to enjoy his victory cigar as Larry Bird dropped 30 points for the first time in his NBA career in a 118-103 victory over the Pacers.
The opening segment of CSNNE’s postgame is always entertaining as I await how Felger and the Lettermen are going to spin the latest Patriots win.
They did not disappoint last night, leading off with how the Patriots 49-19 was not a product of anything they did, but simply the Jets handing it to them, and that there was nothing really impressive with what the Patriots did.
Felger did call the Jets dead, which must’ve pained him after spending the last few years telling us how the Jets had passed the Patriots as an organization and how the Jets way of building a team was every bit as successful as the Patriots method.
We’re in the dark days, indeed.
The lack of faith that people continue to display in this team is mind-boggling at times.
So far we've hit every checkmark on the "How the Pats blow games against inferior teams during the Belichick-Brady era" blueprint.
By the time the third quarter rolled around the talking wags were already grousing about how much the Patriots were still throwing, and when they would take Tom Brady from the game. Expect more as the days go by.
Tom E Curran was a fun follow last night in all of this.
This is like when Cronkite came out against Vietnam. MT @AlbertBreer I'll say it now — Brady shouldn't be out there now. Unnecessary risk.
Do these same people make these complaints when the Saints leave Drew Brees in throwing during the last minutes of a blowout win? Of course not. This is all about the Patriots and Bill Belichick and a chance to take a shot at them.
Celtics (12-4) vs. Nets (7-12)
Wednesday, November 21, 1979
The Celtics looked to begin another winning streak after a turnover-plagued loss to the New York Knicks with a home game against the Nets the night before Thanksgiving. After dropping the game to the Knicks, as well as one to the 76ers, the Celtics fell to just 3-2 in the Atlantic Division but still entered the night in first place as the Sixers, now 13-6, had lost four out of their last six games. Continue reading “Bird’s Rookie Year – Game 17 vs. the Nets”
One of the longest tenured members of the Boston sports media is WEEI’s The Big Show co-host Glenn Ordway. Since 1975 Ordway has been working in the Boston media, working for all four major sports teams in the process. In 1987, when Ordway was a Celtics commentator the team moved their radio programming to WEEI where he became executive sports director. He was later named program director in 1996 and started The Big Show, not looking back since, adding numerous television appearances and even his own show, New England Tailgate on Comcast Sportsnet to his resume.
Boston Sports Media Watch had the chance to sit down and catch up with Ordway to discuss his career, including the changes he’s needed to make over time as well as talking about some of the coaches he interviews on a weekly basis.
Over the years what is the biggest thing that has changed in the sports media, especially radio?
A lot has changed. Believe it or not in the old days we didn’t have the internet so you didn’t have the capacity to go and dig out stories else where. You were dealing with the Globe or the Herald and maybe the Worcester Telegram, that’s what you were dealing with years ago. Nowadays everything is instantaneous, the media is immediate. Stories break in 15 seconds on Twitter.
The two things that were key for doing talk shows years ago were the morning newspapers… In other words, you’d wake up at 7 o’clock in the morning and that’s the first time you’d learn about a rumor or trade. There was no at night, there was no SportsCenter, you weren’t getting any other that. The other thing that would happen is every once in awhile, somebody on Ch. 4, 5, or 7 on TV at night would break a story at 11 o’clock and I’d sit there and say, that’s my show tomorrow.
It’s much different. The sound that is out there, every game is either seen, or you record it — you can watch everything. The preperation for one of these shows is so much easier now than it was, and you can absorb and take in so much more.
What was it like transitioning from the two different co-hosts per day to now having one permanent co-host in Michael Holley?
It is a much different formula with three guys and a flash guy in Pete [Sheppard]. You have a lot of people talking. Yes, I know we were interrupting each other all the time, and it was by design, basically four guys sitting in a bar. That is what you do when you’re with your friends at a bar having a sports debate, you start jumping on top of each other.
On the other hand, for me it was a much different role because I was like the moderator and I had to poke at everybody. I had to jump in with an opinion so I could poke to get opposing views to create some type of entertaining confrontation. Because of that I developed that flip flop reputation and I am guilty as charged, no question about it. That was part of the role that I was in.
The role in this show now, is it is a two man team. So you need player A to have a strong opinion and you need player B to have a strong opinion and it comes out with the both of us challenging each other. I happen to have a partner that I have great respect for, and I think he and I really have found that niche in the show to be able to openly throw our opinions out there and not have to worry about it. It is a much different formula, much different.
How much attention do you pay to the ratings?
You have to. They are not everything because if you have ratings and you’re not driving revenue then you’re not really getting your job done. They go hand and hand. You have to watch ratings, and it’s not just ratings looking at the other sports station, the Sports Hub, you’re looking at what the music stations are doing, you’re watching the trends and trends change throughout the year.
Everybody busts us all the time, why do you take all your vacations in the summer? Because listening habits change dramatically in the summer time. People listen to far more music, people get away from sports, they get into nostalgic music, everything changes. Habits change so much so that’s the book that advertising agencies kind of dismiss. Spring and the fall are the two big books that people really pay attention to. You have to watch everything else that is going on.
Was Bobby Valentine one of the most awkward guys you’ve had on for a weekly interview?
I don’t think awkward would be the way I would say it — I would say the most unpredictable. You’d ask him a question and he was the one guy you never knew what the answer was going to be. I think I can ask a lot of people questions, people I interview on a regular basis, and have a decent idea of how they are going to approach the answer. With Bobby I never had an idea of how he was going to answer. That is why he caught me so off guard so many times.
What about Belichick, sort of the opposite?
With Belichick I kind of know the way he is going to approach it. So, you have to phrase the question in a certain way. You have to be ready to come back sometimes with a follow up. But, Bobby was great with follow ups because once you knew he was going to cross the line with the answer, you knew if you threw him a follow up he wasn’t going to stop. Bobby was not one of those to say, that’s it, I’m not going to talk about that anymore, he always wanted to say more about something. Bill wants to say less about something because he wants to protect his team.
On the other hand, if I were to ask a question to Bill about a play they had on Sunday and compare it to a similar play they ran in 2004, Bill would go back to that play in 2004 with tremendous clearity and he would detail every little thing that happened in that play, why it happened, and every player that was involved. When it comes to history and going into the past tense, because Bill doesn’t want to bring up the present or future, he gives you unbelievable stuff.
There are times when you really listen to Bill on Monday, that if you read behind the lines, there is stuff there, but you have to read between the lines. If he is not answering a question a certain way, or if he does, like the way he answered the question this past week on [Aqib] Talib and how much playing time he was going to get, he gave me the answer, but it was reading in between the lines.
What about the future for you personally, you’ve been doing The Dan Patrick Show nationally lately, do you like that?
I love it. Those guys are great — the Danette’s and Dan is a great friend. I like those guys an awful lot, I like doing the show. I love doing what I am doing right now. I’ve got to tell you, this is fun every single day. It’s fun waking up preparing for the show, doing the show, I have no regrets. I could actually have to work someday, this is fun. I have done an awful lot of things in the business, dealing with pre and post with the Red Sox, people forget I worked with the Bruins for two years, and the Celtics for 14. I am having fun right now.
But, there are challenges down the road. There are a couple of projects that I am working on right now that will hopefully come to fruition. So there are a bunch of other things I want to do, you always want to try and find new challenges and things to do. But, this is a blast and working with Michael has been a whole new level of enjoyment for me.
Jason, you always leave your starters in on the P.A.T., even on the field-goal block team. When I was playing defense and we were blowing out an opponent, you were told, “You’re out of the game now, Tedy, but you’re still on the field goal block team.” It’s just the way it is in football. The forearm injury to Gronkowski is unfortunate. The projected time for him to miss is 4-to-6 weeks, per some reports. From my experience, it can be significantly less. Mike Vrabel broke his forearm one year. After surgery, they put in one plate and 11 screws. Vrabel missed two games. I know Gronkowski is tough, but Mike Vrabel’s toughness was legendary. So it all depends on the player. I would doubt that Gronkowski is out the full six weeks.
Just what is an “acceptable” win for the New England Patriots?
When they win a nail-biter, the cry is that they cannot “close out” teams, they lack “killer instinct” and they don’t “step on the throat” of opposing teams when they have them down.
On the other hand, in games like yesterday’s 59-24 rout of the Indianapolis Colts, the cry turns to “running up the score” on a team whose coach has cancer, showing “poor sportsmanship” and “extreme arrogance” and “hubris.”
Additionally, there is talk of “karma” when all-world tight end Rob Gronkowski breaks his forearm while blocking for the final extra point of the game.
Other than the Gronk injury, it was a very nice all-around game for the Patriots, one only the soccer moms or self-appointed extreme “fan critics” could grouse about. And Ron Borges. And they all will. The Jets are coming, babe.
If you want predictable, today’s (all week, actually) sports radio and TV topics are all lined up for you:
I want to throw out a thank you to Anna’s Taqueria for providing a great game-day spread for BSMW yesterday.
The food was awesome (picked it up out of the Somerville location) and was a big hit with gang at home The giant vat of guacamole they sent over was worth the drive from NH to pick it up all by itself. There were even some leftovers, which will be devoured shortly for lunch. A spot definitely worth checking out for your next game-day party.
Celtics (12-3) vs. Knicks (7-10)
Saturday, November 17
The Celtics traveled to Madison Square Garden for the the second half of a back-to-back. The Knicks also played the prior night, losing in Houston, 133-130. New York was mired in a five-game losing streak, but dropped each game by no more than four points. They would end the losing streak, defeating a storied division rival in front of a new sellout attendance of 19,591. Outscoring the Celtics in three of the four quarters, the Knicks claimed victory with a 113-109 win.
Celtics (11-3) vs. Jazz (2-15)
Friday, November 16
The pre-Jerry Sloan Jazz were no pretty sight. Coach Tom Nissalke’s team was bad right from the stretch: Utah dropped its first four games, losing the first by 16, the second by 31, and the third by another 15 points. The team would finish 2-18 in the month of October, with the only victories coming at the expense of the San Diego Clippers (who were missing Bill Walton, whose injury situation will be covered when the Celtics travel to San Diego in December) and an eight point win over Sloan’s Bulls.
Damon Amendolara’s nighttime program “The D.A. Show” will be moving to overnights on CBS Sports Radio beginning on Wednesday, January 2, 2013, where it will be heard from 2:00 to 6:00am.
The program will still be heard locally on 98.5 The Sports Hub, but will now be a national show.
Here is part of the release from CBS Sports Radio:
CBS Sports Radio today announced Damon Amendolara as host of the network’s weekday overnight show. His new program, “The D.A. Show,” which will debut Wednesday, January 2, 2013, upon the launch of the network, will be heard on select stations from 2:00-6:00 AM, ET on-air, streaming online and through the Radio.com application for mobile devices. Amendolara, known by his fans as D.A., joins the network from CBS RADIO Boston’s WBZ-FM “98.5 The Sports Hub,” where he has served as evening host since the station’s launch in August 2009. As he makes the transition to CBS Sports Radio, Amendolara promises a program which will be a mix of the latest sports news, discussions and controversy, in addition to interviews with tastemakers from the sports world and calls from night-owls across the country. He joins the previously announced schedule which includes powerhouse talent such as Jim Rome, Doug Gottlieb, John Feinstein and Scott Ferrall.
The following stations will be among those broadcasting Amendolara’s “The D.A. Show”:
WJFK-FM Washington, D.C.
KFNZ-AM/KJQS-AM Salt Lake City
No WFAN in New York, which will apparently keep it’s own overnight programming. This obviously opens up a spot on 98.5 The Sports Hub for evenings. Amendolara has been with the station since it debuted, and the opening will be a sought-after position.
Toucher and Rich seemed to be hinting at something this morning when they referred to Amendolara being very popular with the big wigs at CBS Radio, and then devoted a segment to mocking him and engaging in a mock(?) feud with him and his show.
Despite a 102-97 loss to the Brooklyn Nets last night, there were a number of positives to come out of the game last night for the Celtics. They played without Rajon Rondo, and nearly won anyway. Courtney Lee played his best game of the season, and Boston played tough against a motivated Nets squad, erasing a 13 point deficit, and taking a lead of their own before fading late.
The Patriots will face the Indianapolis Colts for the first time in the Andrew Luck era. To paraphrase Peter King it is odd and sad that we’ll probably only see 4-5 matchups between Luck and Tom Brady ever.
The Holy War of the BBWAA – Eric Wilbur has an interesting post on the internal debates between members of the Baseball Writers Association of America and the internal battles and debates over the usage of new-age statistics.
My SBNation Media Column is about the sports flash opening on WEEI’s Dennis and Callahan Morning Show. The column has not been published yet. When it is, it will be here.