Eli Manning did it to the Patriots again, leading a last second touchdown drive to beat New England after the Patriots had just scored a touchdown of their own to take a late lead. The Patriots defense had some decent moments yesterday, but simply could not get it done when it counted, allowing the Giants to march down the field for the winning score in just under 100 seconds of play.

The Patriots fall to 5-3 with the loss, and now go into their toughest game of the season, next Sunday night in New York against the suddenly revitalized Jets. I don’t think many around these parts give the Patriots much chance of winning that one. Tom Brady keeps talking about the character of this team, but what confidence do we really have in this group? They certainly haven’t earned it to the point.

Tom Brady, Patriots showing limitations – Mike Reiss notes that suddenly it is the offense that has people worried. Greg A. Bedard agrees that this one was on the offense. Karen Guregian notes that Tom Brady just doesn’t have enough weapons that he trusts on offense. (I’d agree with this – this is where Ochocinco is just killing the Patriots. They need a third receiver in the worst way.) Rich Garven says that the offense is much more troublesome than the defense at this point. Nick Underhill has the offense frustrated with their own lack of execution. Danny Picard has the offense just not doing enough.

Total recall – Mark Farinella says that with Jake Ballard playing the role of David Tyree, this one will haunt the Patriots. Ian R. Rapoport has the Patriots just unable to put away the Giants. Hector Longo says that any adjustments the Patriots attempted were just not enough. Shalise Manza Young has the Patriots unable to make the final Brady score stand up. Tim Weisberg says that while it is far from Chicken Little time in Foxboro, the Patriots are running out of time to become a complete team.

Patriots defense’s good work forgotten – Chris Forsberg says that the good work put in by the defense early in the game went to waste in the end. Dan Duggan looks at the unit’s inability to make a stand at the end. Monique Walker has the defense taking the fourth quarter off. Mary Paoletti says that while the defense made strides, it wasn’t enough. Jim Donaldson says that this is a no-name, no-game defense. Jeff Howe has the defense’s improvements going for naught yesterday as they coughed up two fourth-quarter leads.

Ten Things We Learned Sunday: Real test now looms for Patriots – Christopher Price runs down what we can take from this game. Andrew Tornetta has five things we learned. Jimmy Toscano looks what went right and wrong. Dan Duggan picks out the Best and the Worst from yesterday. Reiss gives his 3 up, 3 down.

Patriots’ best no longer enough – Ron Borges says that the Patriots dynasty is over. Wait, I thought it was over in 2005? Or 2006? 2008? 2009?

Patriots must dig deep to prove prowess – Tom E Curran says that the Patriots have a lot to prove, both to themselves and others.

On Cruz control – Chad Finn has former UMass star Victor Cruz doing in the Patriots.

Rough day for Welker – Julian Benbow looks at a rough, but productive day for the Patriots receiver.

Secondary needs primary approach – Ty Law says that the defensive backs need some coaching from one of the best positional coaches in football – Bill Belichick.

Stephen Gostkowski missed field goal costly – Jennifer Toland’s notebook has a missed chip-shot field goal proving costly for the Patriots. The Patriots Journal has the team hoping to turn things around against the Jets. The Globe notebook from Shalise Manza Young and Monique Walker has Brady relying heavily on his top receiving duo of Wes Welker and Rob Gronkowski yesterday. The Herald notebook from Ian R. Rapoport has Ochocino again failing to record a catch despite five targets. The Enterprise notebook from Glen Farley has Sergio Brown surprised at the pass interference call on him that ultimately decided the game. The MetroWest notebook from Tim Whelan Jr has more on the offensive struggles.

Hot Dan! Duquette back in action? – Gordon Edes has the former Red Sox GM back in baseball, as President of Baseball Operations for the Baltimore Orioles. John Tomase thinks we may discover that we were wrong about Duquette.

Wondering what these managerial interviews are like? Josh Byrnes can offer some insight – Rob Bradford talks to the Padres GM about the process of hiring a manager.

Sox Win Big In Deal To Use Streets – A feature in the Globe by The Initiative For Investigative Reporting looks at the success the Red Sox have had in a deal with the city to lease Yawkey Way and Lansdowne Street.

NBA on edge of darkness – Steve Bulpett looks at the NBA Labor talks, which are on the brink of complete disaster.

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20 thoughts on “Another Giant Disappointment For Patriots

  1. I've got to disagree with you on one key point Bruce. Was at the game and it was the worst game I've seen Brady play. Ochocinco was open numerous times and Brady just didn't get him the ball. And when Brady threw it to him the pass wasn't even close enough for him to make a play. I love Brady and am not in panic mode or even looking for a scapegoat but Ocho wasn't the problem. No third receiver would have helped that team yesterday.

    And it was funny that as we were leaving the stadium all the people I was with all said it was going to be too bad that Ochocinco would inevitably get a lot of the blame but he shouldn't.

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  2. I don't disagree that Brady's play was not great. But I look at it from this perspective: In the last couple of minutes both units got the chance to make a stand. The offense went down the field quickly (too fast as it turned out) and scored the go-ahead TD… the defense, took their chance and pissed it away.
    Oh, and don't get me started on special teams. I never thought I would miss Brandon Tate so much.

    Sidebar: does anyone know if after a Pat's loss Ron Borges masturbates right at the stadium, or does he wait till he returns to his coffin? Always been curious about that.

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  3. No dynasty ended. The Patriots are just a good team, not entirely exceptional, not bad, just good. With the success this team has had, the spoiled fanbase should really stop bitching and accept it. Now you can certainly argue about why they have slipped and why they are so personnel deficient in some areas and perhaps why the positional coaching isn't up to par. But please, get over yourselves and take it for what it is. If you actually stop acting like an entitled puss, you might actually start enjoying sports.

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  4. Borges started his "dynasty is ending" mantra last night on CSNNE and Tom Curran immediately said it must have been a "pants tent" moment for him.

    Borges probably started writing this column in 2001. Too bad he's still around to write it.

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  5. On a non football topic. I am becoming fascinated with the coverage of the NBA lockout and negotiations. Read Steve Bulpett's article and you come away feeling that you are even more confused. There was no clearly delineated description of the two sides. No cause and effect outcome discussion. And no clear vision of what it will take to solve the impasse. I would love to blame Bulpett but I have not read any good reporting on the negotiations…not locally or nationally. Clearly nothing to level of what we got with the NFL lockout. Heck we do not even know what the owners are really offering and what the players are really requesting. I am not sure anyone ever really explained what was in the old CBA well. It is pretty fascinating to me and it goes to show the quality of the reporting that covers the NBA compared to the NFL or MLB. Maybe that is not fair…maybe it goes to the amount of respect the reporting has for the intelligence of the fans of the NBA.

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  6. I forget the source but the salient point was this from all the breakdown: opponents have figured out how to mix coverages (Steelers/Giants) even after presnap read/motion. They've also learned that we have 0 threats outside the numbers and to cover the immediate/short game to the TEs. Basically, any descent team can beat us now and it comes down to mistakes with our defense not helping.

    Also, I keep hearing sprinkles of this, but have to wonder if the Krafts or someone in the Pats org, beyond their own tape and analysis, is listening to the clamor in the local media/sportstalk to get someone back on D. Mangini? Anyone?

    I hate to even think this but maybe a higher draft pick for our own will benefit this year, and we won't be trading them away unless for a descent free agent.

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    1. It will be absolute zero in hell, and God and Satan will be making out with each other, before Eric Mangini is employed by the New England Patriots again.

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  7. To use a daring analogy and compare different sports, I hope to further JohnnyApps point above: This Patriots team reminds me alot of those late 90's RedSox and 2002 Boston Celtics. They are composed a 1-2 stars (Pedro/Nomar & Piece/Walker) and alot of pieces that are marginal/average at best. The mold for creating a successful team in respective sports and football has shown that talent is what is really important. The Celtics didn't win until they got 3 huge chips and plugged pieces around them. The Sox couldn't rely on 1 pitcher and 1 hitter to win it for them. They needed more. Other than Brady/Welker and Wilfork, the Pats do not have any LEGIT All pro talent (Gronk may be on his way). The Pats need more talent on Def so the avg players weaknesses are not exploited. When you have a shutdown corner and an avg corner, the avg corner can get LB or Safety assistance (see Cromartie). Bt the pats would rather have two marginals players than what I just mentioned.

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  8. This Defense CANNOT make a stop when it matters. When Sergio Brown and Tracy White are involved in key plays in the waning minutes, that's all you need to know.

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    1. I don't disagree with you — but the Steelers couldn't make a stop when it mattered on Sunday, too. I think this has less to do with the Patriots and their talent level/schemes and more about how the rule changes over the past few years have made it dramatically more difficult to defend the pass.

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      1. Not only that but the pass interference penalty in the NFL basically hands the game to the affected team. Brown runs over the receiver and it's game over, literally, with a 1st and goal on the 1.

        I'm not saying it wasn't pass interference, but IMO that penalty ought to be what it is in college (15 yards). You don't see more pass interferences necessarily in the college game because it's 15 yards and not a spot foul. Too many teams have been bailed out in games because of that rule (though it was definitely a penalty, needless to say).

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        1. I totally agree that the cheap pass interference call is violently rage-inducing. Every time some safety trips into a receiver who's about to boink a barely-catchable pass and costs his team 45 yards of field position, I too think "why not the college rule"?

          But then I think about the alternative — if it's a 15-yard penalty, then the safety ALWAYS interferes with a catchable ball on a deep route. If the guy has a step on you, you tackle him, or grab his arms, just as the ball's coming in. Every time. So now instead of penalizing a bad defensive play, you're effectively penalizing a good offensive play. And there's really no happy medium there — you have to do one or the other, or else leave the penalty for interference completely discretionary with the officials, which is a whole 'nother can of worms to open.

          I think the 15-yard rule works in college because college football has immense talent disparities among teams, and therefore when receivers get open deep they typically get OPEN. As in "there is no defender within 15 yards of me" open. So interference calls are a lot more common on shorter, quicker routes, where the 15 yard penalty really hurts (as you probably were only going to give up, say, 8 yards on the pass.) You rarely see that sort of talent difference in the pros. Even Randy Moss, who was tall and fast and possibly better at flat-out straight line route speed than any other receiver in football was rarely more than a step or two open. I think if you put the college rule in place in the pros, you'd see a lot more short 3-5 yard routes turning into big first downs, and virtually no bombs ever being completed. The receivers simply wouldn't be able to get enough separation to avoid intentional interference from the corner/safety.

          It's a problem with no solution. Which is the problem. For better or worse, at least the rule is clear, and it's arguable that it preserves good play instead of allowing the defense to illegally thwart it with limited repercussions.

          But I still hate it.

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          1. I totally understand where you're coming from…but I think in end-of-game situations it is inexplicable. It literally ensures that games can be determined simply by the flag being thrown…and personally I'd rather see a game's outcome decided on the field instead of flags. There may not be a happy medium but it is one of the weak points of the NFL along with the sudden death OT but that's a different matter. (Not that the college OT would work in the NFL — it wouldn't — but that sudden death OT has got to go. It's only there because of wanting to shorten the length of games so they won't run over into the next game and it's not fair, dammit! lol).

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  9. On a sidenote, if everyone has not already been spammed, it looks like SportsHub has their new studios ready that will allow for the simulcast. On Monday, November 14, at 2PM will be the first broadcast. It has been endlessly mentioned that it won't look unprofessional like D+C on NESN is with black sheets over the windows, so I am interested to see how good it looks. I've seen a few shows in other markets simulcast before, and wonder how good that will be and if they'll maybe do it with other shows. Considering they refurnished a studio for it and have a large network (Comcast) behind this, I'm looking for production quality above NESN but not quite like a Mike and Mike.

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  10. BB doesn't trade picks year after year. In fact, he does the opposite. He hoards picks. The Pats didn't trade a ton of picks for Ocho so if it does work out (and signs are pointing to it not working out), they're not out any significant draft picks…money, sure but not picks.

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